Responding on an Open Call by kunstlicht Rosa de Graaf, curator at Kunstinstituut Melly, proposed a conversation between her and Suzanne Weenink. The theme of the open call was ‘Labour of Love’, inspired by bell hook’s ‘all about love’. The entry by Rosa de Graaf was selected. What followed were two silent heart meditations (a metta meditation and a forgiveness meditation) by Rosa de Graaf and Suzanne Weenink, simultaneously, but each in their own space. After these an appointment was made to meet in the space of Daily Practice. There the conversation took place on 8 July 2022.